Daily Archives: December 15, 2009

Attention Atheists: How’s this for Proof?

Dr. Adolfo Orozco says Our Lady of Guadalupe is “completely beyond any scientific explanation.”


1.  The tilma ought to have disintegrated by now, due to the kind of fabric used and the conditions in that part of Mexico City.  Where replicas made with the same material have degraded after less than 10 years, even when preserved under glass, the tilma has survived for nearly 500 years, with much of that time spent totally out in the open.

2.  The image on the tilma, unlike a painting, does not fade, despite the candles burning in front of it all the time.

3.  In 1786, nitric acid was spilled on the tilma, but it didn’t harm it.

4.  In 1921, a bomb blew out windows near the tilma, and twisted a crucifix a few feet away from it, but the tilma itself, and its glass case, were unharmed.

Then there’s this one:

Though the dimensions are microscopic, the iris and the pupils of the image’s eyes have imprinted on them a highly detailed picture of at least 13 people, Tonsmann said. The same people are present in both the left and right eyes, in different proportions, as would happen when human eyes reflect the objects before them. . . .

He insisted that the basic image “has not been painted by human hand.” As early as the 18th century, scientists showed that it was impossible to paint such an image in a fabric of that texture. The “ayate” fibers used by the Indians, in fact, deteriorate after 20 years. Yet, the image and the fabric on which it is imprinted have lasted almost 470 years.

Tonsmann pointed out that Richard Kuhn, the 1938 Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, found that the image did not have natural animal or mineral colorings. Given that there were no synthetic colorings in 1531, the image is inexplicable.

No proof?  What are you going to say to that?  Aliens?  Occam’s Razor?  “They’re obviously not real scientists”?  What explanation can atheists come up with to justify their claim that God gives no proof in this case?